RED ALERT! This roundtable interview comprises spoilers for the whole thing of Star Trek: Picard season 3, together with the season finale, “The Last Generation,” obtainable for streaming on Paramount+ now.
In the wake of the large finale of Picard, The Beat couldn’t resist the chance to participate in a roundtable dialogue with season 3 showrunner Terry Matalas alongside a number of different retailers. Read on to search out out what he needed to say, together with which characters nearly made it into the finale, what went into that post-credits scene, and what rank Harry Kim would have held had he made an look!
This roundtable has been edited for size and readability.
What’s your largest hope shifting ahead?
Terry Matalas: My present largest hope is that everybody enjoys this. That we despatched the Next Gen characters off in a very great way and that everyone likes this subsequent technology of characters. These final two hours had been actually, actually laborious to make. It’s an enormous film on a tv scale, and it nearly killed me. So I simply need everyone to actually like this.
Having mentioned that, gosh, I’d like to do extra. I’d like to see Seven and Raffi and Jack and Sidney and the crew proceed on. And I’d like to see extra of Riker and Geordi and Worf and Beverly and the remainder of the TNG gang proceed on, too, within the twenty fifth Century. So, we’ll see. I believe it’ll be as much as the followers to be loud if that’s a factor they wish to see.
But there’s plenty of nice Star Trek on the market proper now. Strange New Worlds, and Starfleet Academy is coming. Section 31. So it must be one thing that may actually be needed by the followers to occur.
How did you give you the “stars have always been in my favor” line?
Matalas: I didn’t, [writer] Cindy Appel did. And it was powerful. We sat in a room and had been like, “Guys, we’re never gonna beat ‘All Good Things.’ But let’s try, what’s a great line?” and Cindy received the closest with that line that we might get.
I knew I used to be going to finish in that shot and keep within the shot for the credit. And so it wanted to be one thing. But no, that was all Cindy, that line.
Was the poker scene main as much as that ultimate line improv’d, or was that scripted?
Matalas: That’s an excellent query. They’re maniacs, that forged. Anytime you name “cut,” they’re singing, they’re dancing, they’re joking, they’re doing all of the issues that they inform you to do. And this isn’t a film set, the place you may have the time built-in to allow them to try this… It’s tv. It’s like, “We gotta go.”
Except for this scene. I allow them to improvise for forty-five minutes. And I rolled the digicam and I simply saved the cameras going and I allow them to play poker. Because I needed the viewers to know what it was actually like to hang around with the actors. To actually really feel the jokes and the real smiles, the actual camaraderie of what it’s like with these actors.
They’re actually like that, in actual life. And so I believe on the Blu-Ray, we’ll see an prolonged model of that scene. But these jokes, these smiles are all actual. And I needed the viewers to really feel that for a couple of minutes earlier than we mentioned “goodbye.” So that’s what you’re seeing there.
At what level within the artistic course of did the theme of “names” develop into so necessary and the way did this theme have an effect on the event of the season?
Matalas: “Names mean almost everything,” you imply? That was actually a nod to nepotism. Because we knew we had been flashing ahead to the truth that Jack Crusher was going to be accelerated via Starfleet. You should name it what it’s, in order that began that.
But it was additionally concerning the significance of the title “Enterprise,” and what that individual legacy was. For not solely the Federation and Starfleet however for the followers. And in plenty of methods, that was the final character lacking from the season. It was the ultimate character added to the ensemble, once we introduced again the Enterprise-D, and the ultimate character given to the remainder of… to Seven of Nine, actually. That was tremendous necessary for us, for Seven and Raffi to be on the forefront of the Enterprise legacy. So it meant fairly a number of issues.
As far because the season goes, that’s such query. I’ve to take a seat again and meditate on that for fairly a bit. Because it does ask plenty of questions on household. I’m glad that Jack by no means took the title “Picard” in the long run, that he retains his mom’s title.
Now that we will speak about the complete season, what are the moments which are excessive factors or accomplishments for you? And taking a look at it from a essential eye, are there any issues on this season that you simply look again on and want you may have performed otherwise?
Matalas: The spotlight moments are most likely the buddies discovered on the best way. It’s fairly a factor to go from being a Star Trek fan, and these are individuals who I watched on my tv display, to… now I’m on textual content threads with Jonathan Frakes and Brent Spiner and LeVar Burton, they usually’re simply my mates. It’s bizarre. Like, I don’t even consider Frakes anymore as Riker. It’s any individual I name and gossip with. So that’s bizarre and noteworthy.
As far as accomplishments go, one of many of issues that I all the time needed to do since I used to be a child was to be a part of a scoring session with a giant giant orchestra on a giant sci-fi operatic piece. And with the ability to try this with my buddy Stephen Barton was an actual spotlight. To be in a room with a few of the best musicians on the earth, particularly on this finale, doing Jerry Goldsmith’s theme on the finish there over the poker sport with a few of the individuals who did that theme with Jerry. Some of the string part and brass individuals performed with Jerry on a few of the film scores. That brings chills. That was actually one thing to me.
As far as different issues that I want we might have performed higher. Looking at a few of the criticisms throughout the board, I’d say it’s a decisively un-romantic season. There was no actual room for love, whether or not that’s Picard and Crusher, Seven and Raffi, Jack and Sidney had a second of flirtation. Even Riker and Troi largely cope with the tragedy of a pair shedding their baby.
I want I had fought for extra time for a number of further scenes with these characters. I believe that the followers would have all needed extra romance all through. We caught with the excessive stakes of all of it… it felt like that was the place we wanted to remain; there wasn’t actually plenty of time to speak about emotions and for individuals to kiss. But on reflection, I believe that may have been satisfying for followers.
But that’s why we ask for extra Star Trek, you recognize. And these characters aren’t going away. And we actually depart all these characters in a spot the place we will try this. So that’s most likely my largest remorse.
My different one could be, there have been characters I actually needed to see once more. In the unique finale script – look, it was an enormous film that we’re constructing on a tv schedule, proper? The incontrovertible fact that we noticed what we noticed, it’s miraculous that we pulled it off. It practically killed us all.
But, there was a scene with Soji and Data that we couldn’t afford to do, to carry again one other actor. There was a scene the place they discovered Ro Laren within the dungeons of the Intrepid with Tuvok, and that she had survived. We weren’t capable of pull off… Harry Kim appeared at one level. We needed Janeway to be a part of Seven’s promotion.
These are issues, they’re all within the script. And then your line producer says, “Are you out of your fucking mind? You can’t afford these things. You are not Avengers: Endgame.” So these are my regrets. But I’m very proud of what we had been capable of pull off.
The character of Captain Shaw died in episode 9. What led to the choice to kill him?
Matalas: He was all the time going to die. It was all the time his arc. I imply, he’s named “Shaw” after Robert Shaw in Jaws. He was going to get eaten by the shark; he was going to get killed by the Borg. That was all the time a really, quite simple story. It was a part of his destiny.
I believe what occurred, that we by no means might have anticipated, was how beloved he turned by the followers. And that’s a testomony to some great writers we’ve got, and Todd Stashwick and the way charming he’s. I’ve all the time recognized that, from his efficiency on 12 Monkeys. We tailored this function for him. There was by no means anyone else for this function however Stashwick.
But having mentioned that, we knew from minute one there’s a method for Shaw to return, in essentially the most great method, that’s not a cop-out. If we ever had been to come back again. I imply, it’s superior. Awesome.
What was it like occurring and directing on the Enterprise-D bridge?
Matalas: Terrifying. We solely had two days, we had been nonetheless gluing items of the carpet again onto the ship – and we had quite a bit to do on that ship. And it was early on within the schedule. So as a director, I needed to actually be sure I knew what I used to be doing. And they had been essentially the most emotional, pivotal moments within the piece. In some circumstances, not solely certain how I used to be going to drag sure moments off, however they labored. So terrifying, after which great in post-process, with nice reduction to see that they labored.
What rank was Harry Kim in your ultimate draft?
Matalas: He was Captain, truly. I talked to Garrett Wang about this and he was very disillusioned. He was Captain, and that’s all I can say about it. Again, it’s time; it’s cash. We additionally didn’t wish to step on Star Trek: Prodigy’s toes.
You don’t wish to be grasping. But we’re speaking about Frontier Day, proper? Truly, if you happen to had one other twenty minutes, you’d see everyone who’s in Starfleet within the 25th Century. You’d wish to see what everyone’s as much as. But that was that.
What went into the choice to carry Q again?
Matalas: It was an concept I had all the best way again once we filming John de Lancie’s final scene in Picard season 2. I knew we had been going to inform this story, and I went as much as John and mentioned, “I’ve got this idea for a post-credits scene where he’s back.” And he was like, “Yes.”
John and I are expensive mates, and so we continued to speak about it every time we’d hang around. And we solely had twenty minutes to shoot the scene. So we actually received him in, received him in that tremendous outfit. Came in – I imply, he’s phenomenal on his worst day. And we simply banged it out.
I get chills. I like that scene a lot. It’s one among my favourite scenes within the finale.
Did you shoot it throughout season 2?
Matalas: No, we shot it throughout the identical scene during which Picard tells Jack he’s Borg. We wrapped Patrick Stewart and shortly modified the lighting scheme so it’s heat. That’s why it’s nonetheless form of foggy. And we had been like, “Go, go, go,” as a result of we had no time.
And how cool does he look in that costume?
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