“And therein lies the issue, friends don’t try to trick you, get you on the phone and mind-twist you.”
When Taylor Swift launched This is Why We Can’t Have Nice Things in 2017, followers had been fast to clue in she was speaking about Kanye West and that (in)well-known cellphone name.
It was the cellphone recording that rocked the world to its core in 2016 when Kim Kardashian printed a 3 minute snippet to Snapchat to color Taylor Swift as a liar.
And now, Swift is opening up about the injury the cellphone name had on her psychological well being and her profession as a part of her 2023 Person of the Year cowl for Time Magazine.
Watch the video above.
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“Make no mistake – my career was taken away from me,” the singer informed the journal.
“You have a fully manufactured frame job, in an illegally recorded phone call, which Kim Kardashian edited and then put out to say to everyone that I was a liar,” she stated.
After the cellphone name was edited and leaked, Swift confronted huge backlash.
The hashtag #TaylorSwiftIsOverParty and #KimUncoveredTaylorSocial gathering had been trending and the singer was branded as a ‘snake’ after Kardashian posted a tweet celebrating nationwide snake day.
“That took me down psychologically to a place I’ve never been before,” Swift informed Time Magazine.
The Cruel Summer singer informed the journal that in the years since she has discovered “there’s no point in actively trying to quote unquote defeat your enemies.”
“Trash takes itself out every single time,” she added.
After Kardashian leaked the three minute model, Swift launched an announcement that learn “I would very much like to be excluded from this narrative, one that I have never asked to be a part of.”
The singer would go on to reference the feud in her 2017 album Reputation, and in 2020, the full cellphone name was leaked in all of its 25-minute glory.
“Make no mistake — my career was taken away from me”
It’s not recognized who let the full video recording that was made by certainly one of West’s associates out of the bag, however it paints a way more attention-grabbing image of the dialog – and of each artists’ way of thinking at the time – than the closely edited snippets that Kardashian first offered to the world.
Variety transcribed the whole 25-minute dialog, included beneath, for followers of both or neither artist to guage.
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The notorious cellphone name
A full account of the cellphone name establishes that, as they mentioned West’s forthcoming track Famous, the hip-hop titan by no means did learn Swift the “I made that bitch famous” line that she finally reacted towards, placing their former feud again in movement.
In truth, at one level, she expresses aid that he didn’t use the B-word in the track, as far as she knew. “I thought it was going to be like, ‘That stupid, dumb bitch’,” she tells West. “But it’s not.”
West does inform her that he’s considering of claiming “I made her famous,” with out together with the “bitch” a part of the line. At this level in the dialog, Swift’s tone subtly adjustments, as she says, “Well, what am I going to do about it?” He responds, with a chuckle, “Uh, like, do the hair flip?”
She reminds him that she had two multi-million-selling albums earlier than he rushed onto the stage at the MTV Video Music Awards in 2009 to steal her thunder. “It’s just kind of like, whatever, at this point.
But I mean, you’ve got to tell the story the way that it happened to you and the way that you’ve experienced it. Like, you honestly didn’t know who I was before that. Like, it doesn’t matter if I sold 7 million of that album [Fearless] before you did that, which is what happened. You didn’t know who I was before that. It’s fine.”
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The transcript does corroborate that Swift indicated that she was okay with the line that goes “I feel like me and Taylor Swift might still have sex” and understood it as tongue-in-cheek.
Much of the dialog, although, is devoted to debating whether or not that was preferable to another line, “I feel like Taylor Swift might still owe me sex.” West stated that Kardashian most popular the “owe me sex” model reasonably than the “might still have sex” line.
“I feel like with my wife, that she probably didn’t like the ‘might still have sex’ because it would be like, what if she was on a TV show and said ‘Me and Tom Brady might still have sex’ or something?” West says.
Swift responds, “You have to protect your relationship. Do what’s best. You just had a kid. You’re in the best place of your life. I wouldn’t ever advise you to f– with that.”
She argues towards the “owe me sex” line most popular by Kardashian as a result of, in what is likely to be an understatement, feminists will object.
The dialog wasn’t only a blip in the careers of both Swift or West. For Swift, the repercussions had been monumental.
Blowback was fast after Kardashian leaked the excerpts, leading to headlines like The Verge’s “Kim Kardashian Used Snapchat to Prove Taylor Swift Was Lying About Kanye West’s ‘Famous.'”
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Swift quickly retreated from public view in wake of the backlash towards her, lastly returning with the largely darkish “Reputation” album and tour, which used snake imagery to play off the serpentine emoticons Kardashian utilized in her tweets when she lashed out towards Swift.
The name begins with West asking if Swift will really “release” the track for him on Twitter — although later he admits he nonetheless hasn’t completed it but. Swift is bowled over by the thought, however West argues, “You’re got an army.
You own a country of mother–ing 2 billion people, basically, that if you felt that it’s funny and cool and like hip-hop, and felt like just “The College Dropout” and the artist like Ye that you love, then I think that people would be like way into it.
And that’s why I think it’s super-genius to have you be the one that says, “Oh, I like this track quite a bit.'” After she balks, he adds, “You do not need to do the launching and tweet. That was simply an additional thought I had.
At one level, Swift says, “I need to think about it, because you know, when you hear something for the first time, you just need to think about it. Because it is absolutely crazy. I’m glad it’s not mean, though.”
Later, West says, “I’m going to send you the song and send you the exact wording and everything about it, right? And then we could sit and talk through it.”
At the shut of the name, Swift says, “Send it to me. I’m excited.” Swift’s camp has at all times contended that West by no means adopted up on his repeated vows to ship her the whole track, with or with out the “that bitch” line.
The dialog additionally features a seven-minute monologue on West’s half through which he free-associates about being “a good like 20, 30 million” in private debt, and how “it allowed the whole town to try to feel like they could control Kanye or even talk to me like I’m regular.” But, he added, “It’s like even in debt, he moves around like he’s like a billionaire. I’m like, yeah, I’m a cultural trillionaire!”
He contends, “I, Kanye West, the guy who created the genre of music that is the Weeknd, that is Drake … Every single person that makes music right now, (their) favourite album is ‘The College Dropout.’ Every single person that makes music. But,” he laments, “I went into debt to my spouse by $6 million engaged on a f–ing home, lower than like just a few months in the past, and I used to be capable of pay her again earlier than Christmas and s– like that.
“So, you already know, after I discuss Nike, the concept that they would not give me a share, that I might make one thing that was so tangible, when Drake was simply rapping me into the motherf—ing garbage can, that I might have one thing that was tangible that confirmed my creativity and expressed myself, that additionally may very well be a enterprise that I might have a five-times a number of on and really be capable of promote it for like 100 million, 200 million or a billion {dollars}, that was very severe.”
He also suggests that keeping up with the Kardashians, financially, was a major strain on him. “With my household. I felt like, look, if I’m simply the offended black man with some cool crimson footwear from Nike 5 years in the past, I used to be going to be visiting my daughter, versus be residing along with her. It would’ve been like, sufficient is sufficient.
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“It wouldn’t have been cool anymore, because it would have been a group of people, including my wife, that all had at least like 500, 400 million in their account. And then you get the angry black man at the party talking about ‘I’m the one that put Kim in the dress! I’m the one that did this!'”
“I’m 100% going to be like a multi, multi, multi-billionaire. I think it’s fun that I can like be like Charlie Sheen and be like, ‘Hey, like, I got AIDS.’ …. I told Drake that the other night. I was like, ‘Yo, Drake, I’m in personal debt.’
“And for me to inform Drake, the f–ing primary bachelor in the world that may f–ing rap anyone right into a garbage can, that lives 4 blocks down the avenue from my spouse and like mainly f–s all of her associates, that I’m in private debt, it is such a like placing down the sword or … exhibiting the hand, that I haven’t got my poker face on with any of you guys.”
The full transcript follows.
West: [To someone outside room.] Lock that door and then stand on the other side of it until I knock for you … No, lock the doors up.
West: [Resuming a conversation in progress with Swift, her end initially unintelligible.] …old school s–, yeah. I’m doing great. I feel so awesome about the music. The album’s coming out February 11, I’m doing the fashion show February 11 at Madison Square Garden, we’re dropping the album February 12th that morning. It’s like…
Swift: [Inaudible.]
West: Oh, thank you so, so much. Yeah. It feels good. It feels like real Ye, Apple, Steve Jobs-type music. So my next single, I wanted you to tweet it. It’s a good Friday to drop it. It’s a good Friday song. So that’s why I’m calling you, that I wanted you to put the song out.
Swift: Oh, wow. Like, um, what would people… I guess it would just be, people would be like, “Whyyyy is that this taking place?” They would suppose I had one thing to do with it, in all probability.
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West: Well, the cause why it will likely be taking place is as a result of it has a really controversial line at the starting of the track about you.
Swift: [Apprehensively.] What does it say?
West: So it says… and the track is so, so dope. And I’ve actually sat with my spouse, with my entire administration group, with all the pieces and tried to transform this line. I’ve thought of this line for eight months. I’ve had this line and I’ve tried to transform it each which method. And the authentic method that I thought of it’s the finest method, however it’s the most controversial method. So it is gonna go Eminem a bit of bit, so are you able to brace your self for a second?
Swift: [Sounding resigned.] Yeah.
West: Okay. All proper. Wait a second, you sound unhappy.
Swift: Well, is it gonna be imply?
West: No, I do not suppose it is imply.
Swift: Okay, then, let me hear it.
West: Okay. It says, um,… and the humorous factor is, after I first performed it and my spouse heard it, she was like, “Huh? What? That’s too loopy,” blah, blah, blah. And then like when Ninja from Die Atwoord heard it, he was like, “Oh my God, that is the craziest s–. This is why I like Kanye,” blah, blah, blah, that kind of thing. And now it’s like my wife’s favourite f–ing line. I just wanted to give you some premise of that. Right?
Swift: Okay.
West: So it says “To all my Southside [N-word] that know me finest, I really feel like Taylor Swift may owe me intercourse.”
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Swift: [Laughs, relieved.] That’s not mean.
West: Okay. Well, this is the thing where I’m calling you, because you’re got an army. You own a country of mother–ing 2 billion people, basically, that if you felt that it’s funny and cool and like hip-hop, and felt like just “The College Dropout” and the artist like Ye that you love, then I think that people would be like way into it. And that’s why I think it’s super-genius to have you be the one that says, “Oh, I like this track quite a bit. Like, yeah, no matter, that is cool, no matter.” It’s like, I got like s– on my album where I’m like, “I guess me and Ray J can be associates, if we ain’t love the identical bitch.”
Swift: Oh my God! I mean, I need to think about it, because you know, when you hear something for the first time, you just need to think about it. Because it is absolutely crazy. I’m glad it’s not mean, though. It doesn’t feel mean. But oh my God, the buildup you gave it, I thought it was going to be like, “That silly, dumb bitch.” But it’s not. So I don’t know. I mean, the launch thing, I think it would be kind of confusing to people. But I definitely like… I definitely think that when I’m asked about it, of course I’ll be like, “Yeah, I like that. I believe it is hilarious.” But, um, I need to think about it.
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West:: You don’t have to do the launching and tweet. That was just an extra idea I had. But if you think that that’s cool, then it’s cool. If not… I mean, we are launching the s– like on just good Fridays on SoundCloud, on the site, s– like that.
Swift: You know, the thing about me is, anything that I do becomes like a feminist think-piece. And if I launch it, they’re going to be like, wow, like, they’ll just turn into something that… I think if I launch it, honestly, I think it’ll be less cool. Because I think if I launch it, it adds this level of criticism. Because having that many followers and having that many eyeballs on me right now, people are just looking for me to do something dumb or stupid or lame. And I don’t know. I kind of feel like people would try to make it negative if it came from me, do you know what I mean? I think I’m very self-aware about where I am, and I feel like right now I’m like this close to overexposure.
West: Oh. Well, this one, I think this is a really cool thing to have.
Swift: I know, I mean, it’s like a compliment, kind of. [Chuckles.]
West: I have this line where I said… And my wife really didn’t like this one, because we tried to make it nicer. So I say “For all my Southside [N-word] that know me finest, I really feel like me and Taylor may nonetheless have intercourse.” And my wife was really not with that one. She was way more into the “She owes you intercourse.” But then the “owe” part was like the feminist group-type shit that I was like, ahhhhh.
Swift: That’s the part that I was kind of… I mean, they ‘re both really edgy, but that’s the only thing about that line is that it’s like, then the feminists are going to come out. But I mean, you don’t give a f–. So…
West: Yeah, basically. Well, what I give a f– about is just you as a person, as a friend….
Swift: That’s sweet.
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West: I want things that make you feel good. I don’t want to do rap that makes people feel bad. Like of course, like I’m mad at Nike, so people think, “Oh, he is a bully. He ran on stage with Taylor. He’s bullying Nike now,” this $50 billion company.
Swift: Why are people saying you’re bullying Nike?
West: Because on “Facts,” like, I say, “Yeezy, Yeezy, Yeezy, they line up for days / Nike out right here dangerous, they cannot give s– away.”
Swift: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, that’s just what you do, though. I mean, I wouldn’t say that it’s possible to bully a company like Nike. But I mean… um, yeah, I mean, go with whatever line you think is better. It’s obviously very tongue-in-cheek either way. And I really appreciate you telling me about it. That’s really nice.
West: Oh, yeah. I just had a responsibility to you as a friend. I mean, thanks for being like so cool about it.
Swift: Thanks. Yeah, I really appreciate it. The heads-up is so nice. You’d be surprised how many people just do things without even asking or seeing if I’d be okay with it, and I just really appreciate it. I never would have expected you to tell me about a line in one of your songs. That’s really nice that you did.
West: You mean like unexpected s– like you taking the time to give someone a really, really valuable award and then they completely run for president right afterwards? Like unexpected in that kind of way? [Laughs.] [At the 2015 MTV Awards, Swift presented West with his lifetime achievement award, followed by a rambling speech in which he acknowledged he had smoked pot beforehand and was going to run for president.]
Swift: [Laughs.] We have not talked about what happened.
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West: I just thought that was wavy. It was vibey. The funny thing is I thought about the weed and the president, both of those things I thought about in the shower the day before and just started laughing like crazy. I was like, I gotta say that I had just smoked some weed and then say I’m gonna run for president… So those are my bases of… I knew I wanted to say the thing about going to like the Dodgers game with my daughter and like getting booed and that being scary, and I knew I wanted to say like me changing and thinking about people more since I had a daughter. And then I wanted to say the weed thing. And then I wanted to say the president thing. And everything else was just like off the cuff.
Swift: Oh my God. It was definitely like it stole the show… And then the flowers that you sent me. I Instagrammed a picture of them and it’s the most Instagram likes I’ve ever gotten. It was like 2.7 million likes on that picture of the flowers you sent me. Crazy.
West: It’s some connection or something that I think is really important about that moment when we met on stage. There’s something that I think is really important about that, and where humanity is going, or now where me and Kim are, and having a family and just everything, the way things are landing. So it’s always… relationships are more important than punchlines, you know.
Swift: Yeah, I mean, I don’t think anybody would listen to that and be like, “Oh, that is an actual diss” — like, “She have to be crying about that line.” And I think because of how crazy and strange and fateful the way we met was, I think we have to pick our moments to do stuff together and make sure it’s only really cool stuff.
West: Yeah, exactly. We can’t have it like be somebody else’s idea that gets in front and they’re like… Because if you’re like a really true, creative, visceral, vibey type person, it’s probably hard for you to work at a corporation. So how can you give a creative creative ideas and you’re working in a house of non-creativity? It’s like this weird… So whenever we talk directly… Okay, now what if later in the song I was also to have said, uh… “I made her well-known”? Is that a…
Swift: [Apprehensively.] Did you say that?
West: Yes, it might’ve happened. [Laughs.]
Swift: Well, what am I going to do about it?
West: Uh, like, do the hair flip?
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Swift: Yeah. I mean… Um… It’s just kind of like, whatever, at this point. But I mean, you’ve got to tell the story the way that it happened to you and the way that you’ve experienced it. Like, you honestly didn’t know who I was before that. Like, it doesn’t matter if I sold 7 million of that album [“Fearless”] before you did that, which is what happened. You didn’t know who I was before that. It’s fine. But, um, yeah. I can’t wait to hear it.
West: I mean, it’s fun. It’s definitely… You’re ready to trend. That’s all I can say.
Swift: Uh, what’s the song called?
West: Uh, it might be called “Hood Famous.”
Swift: Oh, cool. Is it going to be like a single-single, or is it going to be a SoundCloud release? What are you doing?
West: Oh, this one right here is like f–ing Song of the Year-type territory.
Swift: Oh my God. Amazing. That’s crazy. Oh my God. Speaking of Song of the Year, are you going to the Grammys?
West: Uh, you know what? I was thinking to not do it. But I think that this song… You know what? I’m going to send you the song and send you the exact wording and everything about it, right? And then we could sit and talk through it. But if the song goes and f–ing just… [The video goes out momentarily.]
Swift: [As the video resumes.] … they just look at us and go… [Unintelligible] …Even if we’ve made an incredible achievement, it’s harder for people to write down our names for some reason. That’s just human nature. It’s envy. It’s asking people in our industry to vote for the people who are already killing it.
West: Yeah. It’s like so many people wanted Meek Mills (sic) to win because Drake was just killing it for so long, and they were just like, “We simply want like Meek Mills (sic) to love…” But I think, you know, okay, so that has my mind going through a lot of places to problem-solve. I was talking to Ben Horowitz — do you know this guy? He’s a VC. Ben Horowitz out of San Fran. But he’s down with that.
Swift: I know that name. I don’t know him.
West: It’s just like the San Fran clique, you know, that type of thing, like he stays down the street from Mark Zuckerberg and s– like that. So I was talking to him and I was like, “Bro”… Like me, I’m in personal debt. I’m in debt by a good like 20, 30 million, ever since the fashion, and still have not made it out of it.
So that’s part of the reason why I had to go to Roc Nation and the touring deals evolved, and it allowed the whole town to try to feel like they could control Kanye or even talk to me like I’m regular or have agents do it, but they saw they couldn’t. It’s like even in debt, he moves around like he’s like a billionaire. I’m like, yeah, I’m a cultural trillionaire! I might have financial debts. So I told Ben Horowitz, I was like, “You guys, you, Mark Zuckerberg or whoever, Tim Cook, you guys have to scrub that up.”
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So I’m sending Ben Horowitz my current balance. That means that l’m not up 50, not up 100 million, not up 200 million, not up 300 million. No –negative 20 million, currently. I, Kanye West, the guy who created the genre of music that is the Weeknd, that is Drake — the guy who created… Every single person that makes music right now, favorite album is “The College Dropout.” Every single person that makes music.
But I’m rich enough… Like, I went into debt to my wife by 6 million working on a f–ing house, less than like a few months ago, and I was able to pay her back before Christmas and s– like that. So, you know, when I talk about Nike, the idea that they wouldn’t give me a percentage, that I could make something that was so tangible, when Drake was just rapping me into the motherf–ing trashcan, that I could have something that was tangible that showed my creativity and expressed myself, that also could be a business that I could have a five-times multiple on and actually be able to sell it for like a hundred million, 200 million or a billion dollars, that was very serious.
Every conversation, every time I’d scream at Charlemagne (Tha God) or scream at (radio host) Sway, that was really, really, really serious. And it also was with my family. I felt like, look, if I’m just the angry black guy with some cool red shoes from Nike five years ago, I was going to be visiting my daughter, as opposed to be living with her. It would’ve been like, enough is enough. It wouldn’t have been cool anymore, because it would have been a group of people, including my wife, that all had at least like 500, 400 million in their account. And then you get the angry black man at the party talking about “I’m the one which put Kim in the costume! I’m the one which did this!” But it never realized itself.
So that’s one of the things I just talked to Ben… And I talk about it on the album. Talk about personal debt and s–. Just the idea like, “Oh s–, this dude with this f–ing Maybach that makes f–ing $50 million a tour nonetheless hasn’t lined it up or got here out of the level when AEG and Live Nation would not give him a deal.” The debt started after “Watch the Throne,” as a result of I received no deal. But I nonetheless was doing my artistic tasks by myself, capturing a movie, doing a style present, simply making an attempt to be very Disney, be very visceral, be artistic. And…
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Swift: I imply, I’m positive you have thought of this up and down, however I imply, is there a technique to monetise these in a method that you simply thought would nonetheless really feel genuine however make them right into a multibillion greenback firm?
West: Well, that is what we’ll do. That’s what we’re in the plans of. I’m 100% going to be like a multi, multi, multi-billionaire. I believe it is enjoyable that I can like be like Charlie Sheen and be like, “Hey, like, I received AIDS.” You know, like…. To me, I told Drake that the other night. I was like, “Yo, Drake, I’m in private debt.” And for me to tell Drake, the f–ing number one bachelor in the world that can f–ing rap anybody into a trashcan, that lives four blocks down the street from my wife and like basically f–s all of her friends, that I’m in personal debt, it’s such a like putting down the sword or putting down the hand or opening, showing the hand.
That I don’t have my poker face on with any of you guys. I’m just me. I’m just a creative. You know, everything I did, even when it was mistimed, whatever it might’ve been from a… It’s always like from a good place, and I know that I’ll overcome it and I know that the world will overcome it. Because, like, I’m going to change the world. I’m going to make it… I’m gonna make people’s lives better on some post-Steve Jobs, Howard Hughes-type shit. Like, I’m going to do things with education. I’m going to do things that help to calm down murders in Chicago or across the globe.
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Things that help to calm down police brutality, to equalize the wealth amidst the class system. Because there’s a bunch of classes of wealthy people that hate Obama because he’s more social and he wants the people who don’t have anything to have everything. And in my little way, by learning how to design, design is something that’s only given to the rich currently. The exact colour palette that Hermes uses versus the colour palette that Forever 21 uses — a colour palette is extremely important. Colour is important. You know, the knowledge of proportions… you know, the size of our house versus the size of someone else’s houses, and just the dynamics of that proportion. Like, I don’t want this conversation to go too, too long, but I wanted to give you a bit of where I’m at and the perspective that I’m at and the way… the fact that I am the microprocessor of our culture. Meaning like, I can figure out how to give Rihanna a Mary J. Blige-type album.
I can figure out how to get the fashion world to accept my wife, and thus the whole family. I can figure out a lot of impossible… I can figure out how to make something that you’re wearing to the airport, five years after the entire globe was like, “Hang that [N-word] alive and f– him, and let’s watch him die, slowly, publicly.” So, it’s a lot. I figured that out for myself, so it’s a lot of s– that we collectively, with the power that you have and your fans, the power my wife has, the power that I have, that we can do to really make it where it’s not just the rich getting richer, but… You know, make it not just a f–ing charity, not singing for Africa, but change things in a way that people can experience s– themselves, a piece of the good life. You know?
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Swift: Yeah. I mean, they’re amazing ideas and amazing concepts, and I definitely would love to talk to you more about it. I know you have to do something right now, but I love that that’s where you’re headed. And it’s been like that. I mean, when we went to dinner, there were the rumblings of those ideas. I like that you’re always thinking outward. And over the last six, seven, eight years, however long it’s been since that happened, I haven’t always liked you, but I’ve always respected you. And I think that’s what you’re saying when you say like, you know, “I is likely to be in debt, however I could make these items occur, and I’ve the concepts to do it, and I can create these items or these ideas.” Like, I’m at all times going to respect you. And I’m actually glad that you simply had the respect to name me and inform me that as a buddy about the track, and it is a actually cool factor to do, and a extremely good present of friendship. So thanks.
West: Oh, thanks too.
Swift: And you already know, if individuals ask me about it, look, I believe it could be nice for me to be like, “Look, he referred to as me and informed me the line earlier than it got here out. Like, the joke’s on you guys – we’re superb.”
West: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think that’s pretty much the switch right there.
Swift: Yeah. Like, you guys want to call this a feud, you want to call this throwing shade, but you know, right after the song comes out, I’m gonna be on a Grammy red carpet, and they’re gonna ask me about it and I’ll be like, “He referred to as me and despatched me the track earlier than it got here out.” So I think we’re good.
West: Okay. I’m gonna go lay this verse, and I’m gonna send it to you right now.
Swift: [Taken aback.] Oh, you just… you haven’t recorded it yet?
West: I recorded it. I’m nuancing the lines — like the last version of it says, “Me and Taylor may nonetheless have intercourse.” And then my wife was like, “That does not sound as laborious!”
Swift: Well, I mean, she’s saying that honestly because she’s your wife, and like, um… So I think whatever one you think is actually better. I mean, obviously do what’s best for your relationship, too. I think “owes me intercourse,” it says different things. It says… “Owes me intercourse” means like “Look, I made her what she is. She really owes me.” Which is going to split people, because people who like me are going to be like, “She does not owe him s–.” But then people who like thought it was bad-ass and crazy and awesome that you’re so outspoken are going to be like, “Yeah, she does. It made her well-known.” So it’s more provocative to say “nonetheless have intercourse,” because no one would see that coming. They’re both crazy. Do what you want. They’re both going to get every single headline in the world. “Owes me intercourse” is a little bit more like throwing shade, and the other one’s more flirtatious. It just depends on what you want to accomplish with it.
West: Yeah, I feel like with my wife, that she probably didn’t like the “may nonetheless have intercourse” because it would be like, what if she was on a TV show and said “Me and Tom Brady may nonetheless have intercourse” or one thing?
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Swift: You have to guard your relationship. Do what’s finest. You simply had a child. You’re in the finest place of your life. I would not ever advise you to f– with that. Just choose no matter… It’s trigger and impact. One is gonna make individuals really feel a sure method, and it is gonna be a barely totally different emotion for the different. But it is not… It does not matter to me. There’s not one which hurts my emotions and the different does not.
West: Yeah. It’s simply, when I’m pointing this gun, what I attempted to do in another way than two years in the past, is like after I shoot a gun, I attempt to level it away from my face. So one is a bit of bit extra flirtatious and simpler… I believe, so actually, meaning the dialog is actually, one is sort of a little bit higher for the public and a bit of bit much less good for the relationship. One is a bit of bit worse for the public and higher for the relationship.
Swift: Yeah. I can hear it. But it is your targets, actually. I imply, you at all times simply go together with your intestine — clearly. But, um, superb. Send it to me. I’m excited.
West: All proper, cool. Thanks a lot.
Swift: Awesome. I’ll speak to you later.
West: All proper, cool. Peace. Bye.
West: [To cameraman.] We needed to get that on the report.
Cameraman: [About interruption.] I’m sorry. The battery on this factor died.
West: It’s simply when it dies… You get some shit like Kanye speaking to Taylor Swift explaining that line? There’s gotta be three cameras on that one. We cannot miss one ingredient.
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